A Child’s Testimony and the Law

June 29th, 2009

The Texas Family Code provides for the child to have a voice in the Courtroom.  The “voice” appears in many forms and in many places in the Texas Family Code. 

 

Texas Family Code Section 153.008 allows a child to file his/her preference with the Court, if the child is 12 years of age or older.  This statute infers that the child’s preference is binding if the Court approves the designation.  However, the statute is absent any coercive language.  Many argue that the age of 12 is too young or too immature to understand the impact of a preference.  “12” is not a magical number.  The statute also does not state that the Court must make a determination upon the executed preference. 

 

Although one can view the filing of a preference as a “voice” of the child, many litigants view the filing as a starting place, just a request of the child.  The same child who may sign a preference for one parent having the right to determine he said primary residence, may also prefer to live with the other parent.  The right to determine the primary residence of the child is not necessarily the right to have primary physical possession – or is it?

 

The code continually strives to be gender neutral and avoid the use of the term:  physical custody.  The term “primary physical custody” is not contained in the statute, nor is there any language stating where the child lives or resides.  Each parent gets possession for a certain period of time.  Yet, no where does the code state “I live with mom/dad.”

 

Current law also states that a child may be a witness.  The Code makes certain that family law will be conducted as other civil cases.  Texas Family Code Section 104.002 gives specific rules for admission of a statement of a child who is under 12 years of age, and in cases that involve abuse.  The idea is that the statement of the child will be pre-recorded and not simply a deposition.  The statute is designated to give some comfort to the child in an atmosphere that may allow that abused child to feel safe.  It is clear that 104.002 is designed for cases dealing with abuse only, as it has “exceptions” to what would otherwise be testimony under simple cross examination.  The statute applies to children who are under the age of twelve years, with the idea that the statements are not elicited for purpose of establishing a preference, but for the purpose of establishing fact. 

 

Section 153.009 allows an in chamber interview with the child.  In a non-jury trial or at a hearing, on the application of a party, the amicus attorney or the attorney ad litem for the child, the court SHALL interview in chambers a child 12 years of age or older and MAY interview in chambers a child under 12 years of age to determine the child’s wishes as to conservatorship or as to the person who shall have the exclusive right to determine the child’s primary residence.  The court may also interview a child in chambers on the court’s own motion for a purpose specified by this subsection.

 

In a non-jury trial or at a hearing on the application of a party, the amicus attorney, or the attorney ad litem for the child or on the court’s own motion, the court may interview the child in chambers to determine the child’s wishes as to possession, access or any other issue in the suit affecting the parent-child relationship.  Interviewing the child does not diminish the discretion or the court in determining the best interest of the child.  In a jury trial, the court may not interview the child in chambers regarding an issue on which a party is entitled to a jury verdict.  In any trial or hearing, the court may permit the attorney for a party, the amicus attorney, the guardian ad litem for the child, or the attorney ad litem for the child to be present at the interview.  On the motion of a party, the amicus attorney, or the attorney ad litem for the child, or on the court’s own motion, the court shall cause a record of the interview to be made with the child is 12 years of age or older.  A record of the interview shall be part of the record in the case.

 

Under current law, the interview of a child in chambers is limited to a non-jury case and does not have any place in a jury trial.  However, the statute is clear that the interview can lead to much more information for the Court than simply questioning the child’s wishes as to conservatorship.  There is very little case law to guide the practitioner on this point. 

 

There is nothing in the Family Code that precludes a child from testifying in a deposition.  The use of deposition testimony may be the best approach to obtaining a child’s testimony in a jury trial. The parties may even agree to take the deposition at a place other than the law office, allowing a less hostile environment.

 

The use of pictures and family videos is another way to get a child’s voice heard.

 

 

Bitter Truths are Painful but Help Children Recover

May 4th, 2009

The transition process for a child in a divorce is a difficult one which can result in acceptance, growth and renewal or long term resentments and unrealistic expectations.

It is this writer’s belief that the most heinous, destructive event that can occur in a divorce process is the use of the children by either spouse to support their own emotional needs or to seek advantage in the process through their children.

If the divorce is accepted and inevitable, every child deserves to know bluntly and directly where they stand.  The exact approach a parent should take with their children will depend on the particular nuclear family, the life belief systems of the family and the relative maturity of each child.  At some point, even with young children, every child has a right to know that mom and dad are getting a divorce, will never live together again, do not want to be married, and, if indicated, do not love each other anymore.  This brutal truth inevitably will result in acting out, crying, assessment of blame, and sometimes pleading for a different result.  Frequently, there is a temporary drop in grade levels, achievement scores and, in the teenage years, disrespect, substance experimentation and/or abuse and authority issues with teachers, coaches or other mentors which have not occurred prior to the separation.  I believe that with honest direct knowledge, regardless of the pain, acting out and emotional injury, the children are at least standing on reality, firmly on the ground, and have a reference with other children, peer groups, and friends who on many occasions have been through the same thing.  They can express their feelings directly to their friends and peers.  They can converse with authority figures or others directly about the truth of the situation and can commence their new lives based on truths and not fantasy.

Alternatively, the most destructive approach a female or male may take with their children is to offer denial or false explanations such as “my mom and daddy are not going to live together for a while, but they may get back together some day,” or “mom and dad love each other, things are not working out right now and we will just have to see.”  In the short term, this approach probably is less emotionally upsetting and easier for the parents and the children.  In the long run, it can be catastrophic as the children of the relationship are standing in quicksand and falsehoods which give their children no base of reference among their peers at school, church, clubs, etc.  They have nothing they can discuss or share with their peers because their parents are “not married” and are “not divorced.”  They may become confounded, and this writer believes the result may be long-term character issues and other disorders which may be avoided if the children are allowed to go through their own grief reaction and start new lives based on truth rather than fanciful false hopes. 

It is absolutely critical that each spouse never demean the self-esteem of the other spouse to their children or to other adults in front of their children.  If dad is a drunk and a mother tells her eight year old son this is the “reason” for the divorce, then every time that eight year old boy looks in the mirror he sees a drunk.  If a father tells a daughter that a divorce had to occur because of the mother’s new relationship with another man, then every time that young girl looks in the mirror she sees a whore.  Children will internalize these assertions because regardless of whether the assertions are right or wrong, they are being made by people who are their parents, advisors and whose behavior they model.  Rest assured that a frequent dead-beat father or mother is infinitely better than no father or mother at all.  Additionally, it has been this attorney’s experience that using the children to forge a position in a divorce inevitably back-fires before the judge and/or jury and, over the long-haul as the children mature into adulthood, they will resent the self-degradation of the other spouse and hold it against the spouse who tried to manipulate the child for the rest of their lives. 

Once a direct, unambiguous, concise, and sometimes brutally honest statement is made to the children as to what their future will be, the best emotional results for the children appear to come from parents who thereafter remain silent on the topic.  Children frequently are dealing with adolescence, puberty, early religious beliefs, adaptation to sexual urges that are normal and hormonal, and every other issue all children deal with as they mature and grow.  The last thing on earth minor children need in this contentious environment is to become a go-between message carrier or spy against a parent who is someone they love and who they follow as a role model, during a terrible period of time in their life when their own grief reaction is just as hard and painful as that of the parents going through the divorce.

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